Comments on: Do Believe the Web 2.0 Hype http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2005/10/24/do-believe-the-web-20-hype/ The official AllPeers blog Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:07:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Preoccupations http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2005/10/24/do-believe-the-web-20-hype/#comment-5887 Preoccupations Tue, 01 Nov 2005 11:44:20 +0000 http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2005/10/24/do-believe-the-web-20-hype/#comment-5887 <strong>Canter on Web 2.0</strong> Matt Gertner:… we should be wary of writing Web 2.0 off as vacuous before it has a realistic chance of achieving its potential, particularly since this is likely to take several years. … Web 2.0 may be a messy term, Canter on Web 2.0

Matt Gertner:… we should be wary of writing Web 2.0 off as vacuous before it has a realistic chance of achieving its potential, particularly since this is likely to take several years. … Web 2.0 may be a messy term,

]]> By: web2.wsj2.com http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2005/10/24/do-believe-the-web-20-hype/#comment-5859 web2.wsj2.com Tue, 25 Oct 2005 23:18:16 +0000 http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2005/10/24/do-believe-the-web-20-hype/#comment-5859 <strong>Describing The Web 2.0 Information Ecosystem</strong> It's refereshing to see people like Stowe Boyd take a serious look at where Web 2.0 is heading these days with an relatively open mind, though there are still plenty (Chris Pirillo) of others (Matthew Gertner) keeping it constructive or keeping it in Describing The Web 2.0 Information Ecosystem

It’s refereshing to see people like Stowe Boyd take a serious look at where Web 2.0 is heading these days with an relatively open mind, though there are still plenty (Chris Pirillo) of others (Matthew Gertner) keeping it constructive or keeping it in

]]> By: Matt http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2005/10/24/do-believe-the-web-20-hype/#comment-5856 Matt Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:33:17 +0000 http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2005/10/24/do-believe-the-web-20-hype/#comment-5856 Thanks for your comments, Mike. I didn't mean to imply that AJAX and FF extensions are the same thing, merely that they are both indicative of a migration of code back from the server onto the client and that this is a primary characteristic of Web 2.0. AJAX has the advantage of simplicity (from the user's perspective) and ubiquity, as you say. On the other hand, AJAX apps have limited access to local resources (such as data storage or low-level networking), they can't rival the native machine code performance of C++, and it's hard to structure the code in a way that is modular and maintainable. So I believe there is room for both AJAX for (simpler apps) and extensions (for more complex or demanding apps like AllPeers). AllPeers 2.0 will be available Real Soon Now. :-) Thanks for your comments, Mike. I didn’t mean to imply that AJAX and FF extensions are the same thing, merely that they are both indicative of a migration of code back from the server onto the client and that this is a primary characteristic of Web 2.0.

AJAX has the advantage of simplicity (from the user’s perspective) and ubiquity, as you say. On the other hand, AJAX apps have limited access to local resources (such as data storage or low-level networking), they can’t rival the native machine code performance of C++, and it’s hard to structure the code in a way that is modular and maintainable.

So I believe there is room for both AJAX for (simpler apps) and extensions (for more complex or demanding apps like AllPeers).

AllPeers 2.0 will be available Real Soon Now. :-)

]]> By: Mike http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2005/10/24/do-believe-the-web-20-hype/#comment-5855 Mike Mon, 24 Oct 2005 17:07:18 +0000 http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2005/10/24/do-believe-the-web-20-hype/#comment-5855 While AJAX apps run on the client, the key differentiator is that their download and installation are seemless for the user. By merely using a webpage the AJAX bits are downloaded. Firefox plug-ins, on the other hand limit your market to a single browser (with a lesser installed base) and to people who are willing to install software in a paranoid world with malware and corporate network watchdogs who will invisibly wipe software off of client machines. Don't get me wrong, what Matt and his crew are doing is very cool, and it really needs client-side software installed because of its p2p roots. But don't be to quick to imply that a Firefox extension and AJAX are essentially the same or that the business dynamics are the same. So when is your extension coming out anyway...I want it! While AJAX apps run on the client, the key differentiator is that their download and installation are seemless for the user. By merely using a webpage the AJAX bits are downloaded.

Firefox plug-ins, on the other hand limit your market to a single browser (with a lesser installed base) and to people who are willing to install software in a paranoid world with malware and corporate network watchdogs who will invisibly wipe software off of client machines.

Don’t get me wrong, what Matt and his crew are doing is very cool, and it really needs client-side software installed because of its p2p roots. But don’t be to quick to imply that a Firefox extension and AJAX are essentially the same or that the business dynamics are the same.

So when is your extension coming out anyway…I want it!

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