Comments on: Karl Fogel, Copyright Activist http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2006/12/30/karl-fogel-copyright-activist/ The official AllPeers blog Sat, 06 Sep 2008 04:50:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Matt http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2006/12/30/karl-fogel-copyright-activist/#comment-47177 Matt Tue, 02 Jan 2007 12:20:51 +0000 http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2006/12/30/karl-fogel-copyright-activist/#comment-47177 Mike - obviously it's up to potential artists themselves to balance the opportunity cost of a career in "the arts" against the advantages of whatever other career path is available. People will sometimes make bad decisions, but I don't think that the solution is to keep the value of an artistic career low so that people are reluctant to pursue one. Note that a miniscule chance of achieving great wealth is very different from <em>no</em> chance (witness how many people play the lottery) and for me one implication of a tiny chance of huge financial rewards is that more reasonable financial rewards (enough to live off, say) will be easier to achieve. Mike - obviously it’s up to potential artists themselves to balance the opportunity cost of a career in “the arts” against the advantages of whatever other career path is available. People will sometimes make bad decisions, but I don’t think that the solution is to keep the value of an artistic career low so that people are reluctant to pursue one. Note that a miniscule chance of achieving great wealth is very different from no chance (witness how many people play the lottery) and for me one implication of a tiny chance of huge financial rewards is that more reasonable financial rewards (enough to live off, say) will be easier to achieve.

]]> By: Matt http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2006/12/30/karl-fogel-copyright-activist/#comment-47175 Matt Tue, 02 Jan 2007 12:15:49 +0000 http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2006/12/30/karl-fogel-copyright-activist/#comment-47175 Hamish - the advantage of MP3 is that it works absolutely everywhere. Hamish - the advantage of MP3 is that it works absolutely everywhere.

]]> By: Mike Linksvayer http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2006/12/30/karl-fogel-copyright-activist/#comment-46980 Mike Linksvayer Sun, 31 Dec 2006 06:26:12 +0000 http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2006/12/30/karl-fogel-copyright-activist/#comment-46980 Matt, it appears you're happy to have artists create in pursuit of great wealth, even if the chances of obtaining great wealth (regardless of copyright regime) is miniscule. But many of these wanna-be's would be personally better off (again, under any regime) pursuing a career in investment banking, car mechanics, or whatever, and keeping their artistic pursuits on the side. The illusion that great wealth is a real possibility itself has several individual and social opportunity costs. You (and just about everyone else) also kept saying that creative output should be maximized. Remove the modifier "creative" to see how silly this is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_surplus should be maximized. Karl, you appear (you mentioned fan-created sci fi a few minutes long) to not be aware of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wreck:_In_the_Pirkinning (feature length, perhaps 1980s studio quality) and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephants_Dream (11 minutes, perhaps year 2000 studio quality). Matt, it appears you’re happy to have artists create in pursuit of great wealth, even if the chances of obtaining great wealth (regardless of copyright regime) is miniscule. But many of these wanna-be’s would be personally better off (again, under any regime) pursuing a career in investment banking, car mechanics, or whatever, and keeping their artistic pursuits on the side. The illusion that great wealth is a real possibility itself has several individual and social opportunity costs.

You (and just about everyone else) also kept saying that creative output should be maximized. Remove the modifier “creative” to see how silly this is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_surplus should be maximized.

Karl, you appear (you mentioned fan-created sci fi a few minutes long) to not be aware of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wreck:_In_the_Pirkinning (feature length, perhaps 1980s studio quality) and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephants_Dream (11 minutes, perhaps year 2000 studio quality).

]]> By: hamish http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2006/12/30/karl-fogel-copyright-activist/#comment-46954 hamish Sat, 30 Dec 2006 22:17:23 +0000 http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2006/12/30/karl-fogel-copyright-activist/#comment-46954 how come you releasing it as an mp3? given that you guys are such liberal dudes, surely the podcast format should be ogg or something more open, yeah? how come you releasing it as an mp3? given that you guys are such liberal dudes, surely the podcast format should be ogg or something more open, yeah?

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