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	<title>Comments on: Mozpad, a Mozilla Platform User Group</title>
	<link>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/05/11/mozpad-a-mozilla-platform-user-group/</link>
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		<title>By: Colonel Nikolai</title>
		<link>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/05/11/mozpad-a-mozilla-platform-user-group/#comment-88639</link>
		<author>Colonel Nikolai</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/05/11/mozpad-a-mozilla-platform-user-group/#comment-88639</guid>
		<description>I'm a MozDev newbie and I sure would like to see a more cohesive presentation of Mozilla's documentation. A lot of the O'Reilly book is cut-and-paste from MozDev. A lot of MozDev is being updated to version 1.9 of Gecko without my being able to find previous versions' commensurate documentation. I get the most help from IRC. I think this implies that what you want to do is generally a Good Thing. I say Go For It.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a MozDev newbie and I sure would like to see a more cohesive presentation of Mozilla&#8217;s documentation. A lot of the O&#8217;Reilly book is cut-and-paste from MozDev. A lot of MozDev is being updated to version 1.9 of Gecko without my being able to find previous versions&#8217; commensurate documentation. I get the most help from IRC. I think this implies that what you want to do is generally a Good Thing. I say Go For It.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/05/11/mozpad-a-mozilla-platform-user-group/#comment-62411</link>
		<author>Tom</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 02:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/05/11/mozpad-a-mozilla-platform-user-group/#comment-62411</guid>
		<description>Mike Shaver comes off as a real asshole in his post about Messina.  Now, whining about people not using internal modes of communication so that they "don't split the community" is the next crock of shit.  The whole idea of open software and open web is, you guessed it, openness.  Shaver doesn't seem to understand this concept, and appears angry that people would share their concerns (however misplaced, as I believe Messina's are) openly rather than within designated cloisters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Shaver comes off as a real asshole in his post about Messina.  Now, whining about people not using internal modes of communication so that they &#8220;don&#8217;t split the community&#8221; is the next crock of shit.  The whole idea of open software and open web is, you guessed it, openness.  Shaver doesn&#8217;t seem to understand this concept, and appears angry that people would share their concerns (however misplaced, as I believe Messina&#8217;s are) openly rather than within designated cloisters.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Messina</title>
		<link>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/05/11/mozpad-a-mozilla-platform-user-group/#comment-62358</link>
		<author>Chris Messina</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 04:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/05/11/mozpad-a-mozilla-platform-user-group/#comment-62358</guid>
		<description>+1 for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1 for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Marshall</title>
		<link>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/05/11/mozpad-a-mozilla-platform-user-group/#comment-62247</link>
		<author>Rob Marshall</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 13:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/05/11/mozpad-a-mozilla-platform-user-group/#comment-62247</guid>
		<description>I'm not sure if I can offer much, but count me in anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure if I can offer much, but count me in anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: czelenak</title>
		<link>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/05/11/mozpad-a-mozilla-platform-user-group/#comment-62246</link>
		<author>czelenak</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 12:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/05/11/mozpad-a-mozilla-platform-user-group/#comment-62246</guid>
		<description>This is a fantastic idea - it's exactly what XR devs need.   Please keep your blog updated with news on how you proceed with this - such a community is a necessity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fantastic idea - it&#8217;s exactly what XR devs need.   Please keep your blog updated with news on how you proceed with this - such a community is a necessity.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian King</title>
		<link>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/05/11/mozpad-a-mozilla-platform-user-group/#comment-62205</link>
		<author>Brian King</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 06:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/05/11/mozpad-a-mozilla-platform-user-group/#comment-62205</guid>
		<description>While I share Shaver's concerns that this should be done in existing channels, mozpad.org is in general a good idea. Sure, let's use current infrastructure, especially for code, but mozpad.org can be a statement of intent, a gathering place, and more. Count me in!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I share Shaver&#8217;s concerns that this should be done in existing channels, mozpad.org is in general a good idea. Sure, let&#8217;s use current infrastructure, especially for code, but mozpad.org can be a statement of intent, a gathering place, and more. Count me in!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/05/11/mozpad-a-mozilla-platform-user-group/#comment-61954</link>
		<author>Matt</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 09:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/05/11/mozpad-a-mozilla-platform-user-group/#comment-61954</guid>
		<description>Rob,

That's great. I was planning to contact you guys about this. (Actually I've been planning to blog some stuff about Songbird for a while.)

Total agreement re: involvement of Mozilla folks.

I'll be taking the next steps in the next few days in terms of providing some sort of forum where we can brainstorm about what this group should/shouldn't be doing, and then perhaps we can set up some sort of discussion among interested parties and the relevant people at Mozilla, if they are amenable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s great. I was planning to contact you guys about this. (Actually I&#8217;ve been planning to blog some stuff about Songbird for a while.)</p>
<p>Total agreement re: involvement of Mozilla folks.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be taking the next steps in the next few days in terms of providing some sort of forum where we can brainstorm about what this group should/shouldn&#8217;t be doing, and then perhaps we can set up some sort of discussion among interested parties and the relevant people at Mozilla, if they are amenable.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Lord</title>
		<link>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/05/11/mozpad-a-mozilla-platform-user-group/#comment-61952</link>
		<author>Rob Lord</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 08:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/05/11/mozpad-a-mozilla-platform-user-group/#comment-61952</guid>
		<description>Matt, 

We Songbirders are up for more brainstorming on the Mozpad concept.  

It's essential IMHO that this group communicates continuously with Mark Finkle, Mike Shaver, Benjamin Smedberg, Rob Strong and others at the Mozilla Foundation/Corporation. 

Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, </p>
<p>We Songbirders are up for more brainstorming on the Mozpad concept.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s essential IMHO that this group communicates continuously with Mark Finkle, Mike Shaver, Benjamin Smedberg, Rob Strong and others at the Mozilla Foundation/Corporation. </p>
<p>Rob</p>
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		<title>By: Mukunda Modell</title>
		<link>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/05/11/mozpad-a-mozilla-platform-user-group/#comment-61857</link>
		<author>Mukunda Modell</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 00:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/05/11/mozpad-a-mozilla-platform-user-group/#comment-61857</guid>
		<description>One more thing - if you need help implementing the wiki or any other aspect of getting the group up and running, add my name to a list of ready, willing and hopefully qualified volunteers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing - if you need help implementing the wiki or any other aspect of getting the group up and running, add my name to a list of ready, willing and hopefully qualified volunteers.</p>
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		<title>By: Mukunda Modell</title>
		<link>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/05/11/mozpad-a-mozilla-platform-user-group/#comment-61849</link>
		<author>Mukunda Modell</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 00:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/05/11/mozpad-a-mozilla-platform-user-group/#comment-61849</guid>
		<description>Yes yes and yes!  I wholeheartedly agree with your initiative to create a user group for platform consumer-developers.  I would support this idea in any way that I can and I would not anticipate major conflict with or division from the core mozilla community. As you already mentioned, apropriate output should find it's way into the devmo wiki and other "more official" mozilla channels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes yes and yes!  I wholeheartedly agree with your initiative to create a user group for platform consumer-developers.  I would support this idea in any way that I can and I would not anticipate major conflict with or division from the core mozilla community. As you already mentioned, apropriate output should find it&#8217;s way into the devmo wiki and other &#8220;more official&#8221; mozilla channels.</p>
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