Comments on: Mozilla, Firefox, Thunderbird and the Hybrid Hypothesis http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/07/27/mozilla-firefox-thunderbird-and-the-hybrid-hypothesis/ The official AllPeers blog Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:44:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Mark Dowling http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/07/27/mozilla-firefox-thunderbird-and-the-hybrid-hypothesis/#comment-89870 Mark Dowling Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:29:02 +0000 http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/07/27/mozilla-firefox-thunderbird-and-the-hybrid-hypothesis/#comment-89870 "If an open source email client based on the Mozilla platform with 5-10 million users (including me) doesn’t make the cut, what does?" Exactly. EXACTLY. On one blog I saw it referred to as "only" 5-10m as opposed to FF's 50-100m. How many were TB users before they were FF users? If I want to avoid IE I can get Opera or Safari or Firefox. If I want to avoid OE there is only one free, credible program in the Windows space. My fear is that TB will be cut loose, er... "communitied" and will preserve a small, dedicated community like Seamonkey (which I still use from time to time), but will exit corporate use and be mowed down in the consumer space if Apple build a Windows Mail the way they have Safari, with all the cross-promotion they can bring to bear via iTunes, QT, Safari etc. “If an open source email client based on the Mozilla platform with 5-10 million users (including me) doesn’t make the cut, what does?”

Exactly. EXACTLY. On one blog I saw it referred to as “only” 5-10m as opposed to FF’s 50-100m. How many were TB users before they were FF users? If I want to avoid IE I can get Opera or Safari or Firefox. If I want to avoid OE there is only one free, credible program in the Windows space.

My fear is that TB will be cut loose, er… “communitied” and will preserve a small, dedicated community like Seamonkey (which I still use from time to time), but will exit corporate use and be mowed down in the consumer space if Apple build a Windows Mail the way they have Safari, with all the cross-promotion they can bring to bear via iTunes, QT, Safari etc.

]]> By: pd http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/07/27/mozilla-firefox-thunderbird-and-the-hybrid-hypothesis/#comment-89255 pd Sat, 28 Jul 2007 06:13:08 +0000 http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/07/27/mozilla-firefox-thunderbird-and-the-hybrid-hypothesis/#comment-89255 reading your post I find myself acting like a hybrid human spiderbot. The keywords I find are: - Dictate - Corporation - Grassroots - Foundation - ProductS - Platform - Firefox - Thunderbird The human in me sees only contradictions: - Corporation vs Foundation - ProductS (plural) vs Firefox (singular) minus Thunderbird and Platform - Dictate vs grassroots Mozilla clearly lacks the sort of benevolent leadership at both a CEO and structural level that can facilitate ongoing growth. Instead they are shutting up shop by rationalising and narrowing their courageously lofty goals. Perhaps Baker's been doing too much acrobatics? All that up, down, around abouts. Perhaps Mitchell doesn't know what direction to lead Mozilla so she's following her instincts and dragging it kicking and screaming here there and everywhere? PS Do I think it's reasonable to personalise this issue towards Mitchell? Well when she *appears* to be acting the dictator by making decisions without the wider consultation of the community, then yes I do think it's reasonable to attack one person because where there's a dictactor, who else can I address? reading your post I find myself acting like a hybrid human spiderbot. The keywords I find are:

- Dictate
- Corporation
- Grassroots
- Foundation
- ProductS
- Platform
- Firefox
- Thunderbird

The human in me sees only contradictions:

- Corporation vs Foundation
- ProductS (plural) vs Firefox (singular) minus Thunderbird and Platform
- Dictate vs grassroots

Mozilla clearly lacks the sort of benevolent leadership at both a CEO and structural level that can facilitate ongoing growth.

Instead they are shutting up shop by rationalising and narrowing their courageously lofty goals. Perhaps Baker’s been doing too much acrobatics? All that up, down, around abouts. Perhaps Mitchell doesn’t know what direction to lead Mozilla so she’s following her instincts and dragging it kicking and screaming here there and everywhere?

PS Do I think it’s reasonable to personalise this issue towards Mitchell? Well when she *appears* to be acting the dictator by making decisions without the wider consultation of the community, then yes I do think it’s reasonable to attack one person because where there’s a dictactor, who else can I address?

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