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	<title>Comments on: Help Me Choose an Email App</title>
	<link>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/16/help-me-choose-an-email-app/</link>
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		<title>By: Howard</title>
		<link>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/16/help-me-choose-an-email-app/#comment-103081</link>
		<author>Howard</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/16/help-me-choose-an-email-app/#comment-103081</guid>
		<description>I agree with the above comments - IMAP and Thunderbird are your friend! :)

You can use SMTP over SSL using port 587 and use IMAP on port 443.

It's available wherever you are - problem solved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the above comments - IMAP and Thunderbird are your friend! <img src='http://www.allpeers.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You can use SMTP over SSL using port 587 and use IMAP on port 443.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s available wherever you are - problem solved.</p>
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		<title>By: Lotti</title>
		<link>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/16/help-me-choose-an-email-app/#comment-97064</link>
		<author>Lotti</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/16/help-me-choose-an-email-app/#comment-97064</guid>
		<description>kill all the ads with customizegoogle plugin for firefox :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kill all the ads with customizegoogle plugin for firefox <img src='http://www.allpeers.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Messina</title>
		<link>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/16/help-me-choose-an-email-app/#comment-96943</link>
		<author>Chris Messina</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 00:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/16/help-me-choose-an-email-app/#comment-96943</guid>
		<description>I've totally switched to Gmail and Mailplane (mailplaneapp.com). I miss some of Thunderbird's niceties, and the loss of a few year's of Thunderbird's email storage, but I'm much happier and much more portable in Gmail and Gmail POP on my iPhone.

I know this might not be an option, but I decided to cut off my old email -- I rarely ever looked through it -- and when I needed something, well, I'd just fire up Thunderbird and look for it. Those days have long since passed though, so now I just rely on my 4 Gmail accounts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve totally switched to Gmail and Mailplane (mailplaneapp.com). I miss some of Thunderbird&#8217;s niceties, and the loss of a few year&#8217;s of Thunderbird&#8217;s email storage, but I&#8217;m much happier and much more portable in Gmail and Gmail POP on my iPhone.</p>
<p>I know this might not be an option, but I decided to cut off my old email &#8212; I rarely ever looked through it &#8212; and when I needed something, well, I&#8217;d just fire up Thunderbird and look for it. Those days have long since passed though, so now I just rely on my 4 Gmail accounts.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/16/help-me-choose-an-email-app/#comment-96898</link>
		<author>Dave Miller</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/16/help-me-choose-an-email-app/#comment-96898</guid>
		<description>Most ISPs provide authenticated SMTP on port 587 nowadays, and I don't think I've seen a provider yet that blocks 587 (except for the places that block everything and make you use their proxy server, etc).  On the other hand, almost everyone is blocking port 25 now because of spammers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most ISPs provide authenticated SMTP on port 587 nowadays, and I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve seen a provider yet that blocks 587 (except for the places that block everything and make you use their proxy server, etc).  On the other hand, almost everyone is blocking port 25 now because of spammers.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerv</title>
		<link>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/16/help-me-choose-an-email-app/#comment-96836</link>
		<author>Gerv</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/16/help-me-choose-an-email-app/#comment-96836</guid>
		<description>IMAP is your friend. Try that first :-) It has stars, and you can get pretty close to threads. You'll need an external app for indexed full text search. Get a webmail front end installed on your IMAP server for times when you don't have a client.

The SMTP issue is your problem :-) Get your provider to implement SMTP Auth over SSL, on the standard port and port 443 (normally HTTPS).

Gerv</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMAP is your friend. Try that first <img src='http://www.allpeers.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> It has stars, and you can get pretty close to threads. You&#8217;ll need an external app for indexed full text search. Get a webmail front end installed on your IMAP server for times when you don&#8217;t have a client.</p>
<p>The SMTP issue is your problem <img src='http://www.allpeers.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> Get your provider to implement SMTP Auth over SSL, on the standard port and port 443 (normally HTTPS).</p>
<p>Gerv</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/16/help-me-choose-an-email-app/#comment-96835</link>
		<author>Brandon</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/16/help-me-choose-an-email-app/#comment-96835</guid>
		<description>Oh, and of course I changed the view to sort by Date, Descending, Threaded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and of course I changed the view to sort by Date, Descending, Threaded.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/16/help-me-choose-an-email-app/#comment-96834</link>
		<author>Brandon</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/16/help-me-choose-an-email-app/#comment-96834</guid>
		<description>In order to get conversation-like threads in Thunderbird, I changed the settings so that everything goes into the Inbox (including drafts and sent messages) and then use tags and saved searches to navigate my mail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In order to get conversation-like threads in Thunderbird, I changed the settings so that everything goes into the Inbox (including drafts and sent messages) and then use tags and saved searches to navigate my mail.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/16/help-me-choose-an-email-app/#comment-96833</link>
		<author>Matt</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/16/help-me-choose-an-email-app/#comment-96833</guid>
		<description>I wish I'd known about MailRedirect before spending so much time torturing myself with that Gmail Loader monstrosity. Unfortunately it has the same problem with timestamps, despite what &lt;a href="http://lifehacker.com/software/thunderbird/download-of-the-day--mailredirect-thunderbird-233659.php" rel="nofollow"&gt;Lifehacker says&lt;/a&gt;. It predictably uses the date/time that Gmail received the mail, not the original date/time of the mail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I&#8217;d known about MailRedirect before spending so much time torturing myself with that Gmail Loader monstrosity. Unfortunately it has the same problem with timestamps, despite what <a href="http://lifehacker.com/software/thunderbird/download-of-the-day--mailredirect-thunderbird-233659.php" rel="nofollow">Lifehacker says</a>. It predictably uses the date/time that Gmail received the mail, not the original date/time of the mail.</p>
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		<title>By: funTomas</title>
		<link>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/16/help-me-choose-an-email-app/#comment-96825</link>
		<author>funTomas</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/16/help-me-choose-an-email-app/#comment-96825</guid>
		<description>Matt, I've also migrated from TB to Gmail only. From my own experience, I can recommend the MailRedirect extension to TB. Works fine with a batch of files even under TB 2.0.x. It'll add an icon to TB's toolbar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, I&#8217;ve also migrated from TB to Gmail only. From my own experience, I can recommend the MailRedirect extension to TB. Works fine with a batch of files even under TB 2.0.x. It&#8217;ll add an icon to TB&#8217;s toolbar.</p>
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		<title>By: Anders</title>
		<link>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/16/help-me-choose-an-email-app/#comment-96823</link>
		<author>Anders</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/16/help-me-choose-an-email-app/#comment-96823</guid>
		<description>You can also always use mutt, though people seem to be tarry of terminal applications these days it offers all of the traditional features plus it's blazingly fast, and has incredibly filtering options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can also always use mutt, though people seem to be tarry of terminal applications these days it offers all of the traditional features plus it&#8217;s blazingly fast, and has incredibly filtering options.</p>
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