Comments on: Mozpad Musings http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/22/mozpad-musings/ The official AllPeers blog Sun, 12 Oct 2008 05:26:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Twentyafterfour http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/22/mozpad-musings/#comment-98968 Twentyafterfour Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:13:31 +0000 http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/22/mozpad-musings/#comment-98968 I like most of what you are suggesting here. I have been thinking of mozpad as the unofficial mozilla platform for a while now. With Mozilla corp looking more and more like Firefox corp I think it would be great to step up and make some cool products out of the mozilla platform. I don't happen to like the eclipse ide, besides that I'm on board! I like most of what you are suggesting here. I have been thinking of mozpad as the unofficial mozilla platform for a while now. With Mozilla corp looking more and more like Firefox corp I think it would be great to step up and make some cool products out of the mozilla platform. I don’t happen to like the eclipse ide, besides that I’m on board!

]]> By: Matt http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/22/mozpad-musings/#comment-98901 Matt Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:31:30 +0000 http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/22/mozpad-musings/#comment-98901 I'm totally interested in the platform though not sure whether the distinction between web apps and desktop apps is as valid as people make it out to be. XUL is also a big question mark for me (stay tuned). I’m totally interested in the platform though not sure whether the distinction between web apps and desktop apps is as valid as people make it out to be. XUL is also a big question mark for me (stay tuned).

]]> By: pd http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/22/mozpad-musings/#comment-98894 pd Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:59:16 +0000 http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/22/mozpad-musings/#comment-98894 Agree having something tangible should galvanize people. Plenty of ideas: - Binding another language (or two) other than JS to XUL - SDK - Expanding on existing FUEL work - IDE I think it's important that you learn from the past. It seems that from roughly 2002-2004 there was a lot of momentum behind XUL in general, including towards the above ideas. Why did the first wave of XUL enthusiasm fall flat? What has to be done (evangelism/marketing/planning) in the medium term to ensure the current resurgence in interest is maintained? Agree having something tangible should galvanize people.

Plenty of ideas:

- Binding another language (or two) other than JS to XUL
- SDK
- Expanding on existing FUEL work
- IDE

I think it’s important that you learn from the past. It seems that from roughly 2002-2004 there was a lot of momentum behind XUL in general, including towards the above ideas.

Why did the first wave of XUL enthusiasm fall flat?

What has to be done (evangelism/marketing/planning) in the medium term to ensure the current resurgence in interest is maintained?

]]> By: enefekt http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/22/mozpad-musings/#comment-98888 enefekt Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:25:51 +0000 http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/22/mozpad-musings/#comment-98888 Wasn't quite sure what this new command-line launching of XUL apps in Firefox 3 means. I'll have to read more about it to see whats possible/feasible. Wasn’t quite sure what this new command-line launching of XUL apps in Firefox 3 means. I’ll have to read more about it to see whats possible/feasible.

]]> By: enefekt http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/22/mozpad-musings/#comment-98884 enefekt Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:10:29 +0000 http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/22/mozpad-musings/#comment-98884 I think the idea of having a Mozpad product(s) is awesome, and depending on what they are would feel privileged to help. I really am waiting to see what the final 1.0 release of Adobe AIR looks like though. Because if that meets my requirements, then I may be in more of a maintenance mode when it comes to XULRunner app development. The main question is do you want to primarily help build a platform product or build apps on a platform? I haven't been able to convince myself to really dedicate to helping build a platform. Especially when the core driver's of that platform seem to be wanting the exact opposite than Mozpad. The MozComm seem to be clearly stating that their primary interest is in the "Web platform" (HTML/JS/CSS), instead of a XUL platform (XUL/XBL/JS/CSS). Just seems to all be conflicting, and makes for a very foggy outlook. I'm all for being a pioneer and diving in, but it looks as if there are some rocks lying directly under the surface. I think the idea of having a Mozpad product(s) is awesome, and depending on what they are would feel privileged to help.

I really am waiting to see what the final 1.0 release of Adobe AIR looks like though. Because if that meets my requirements, then I may be in more of a maintenance mode when it comes to XULRunner app development.

The main question is do you want to primarily help build a platform product or build apps on a platform? I haven’t been able to convince myself to really dedicate to helping build a platform. Especially when the core driver’s of that platform seem to be wanting the exact opposite than Mozpad. The MozComm seem to be clearly stating that their primary interest is in the “Web platform” (HTML/JS/CSS), instead of a XUL platform (XUL/XBL/JS/CSS). Just seems to all be conflicting, and makes for a very foggy outlook.

I’m all for being a pioneer and diving in, but it looks as if there are some rocks lying directly under the surface.

]]> By: Alex Vincent http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/22/mozpad-musings/#comment-98806 Alex Vincent Thu, 23 Aug 2007 05:10:55 +0000 http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/22/mozpad-musings/#comment-98806 Generally speaking, I like this, but it's going to take a bit of actual product planning to make this a concrete goal. What would the product do? Generally speaking, I like this, but it’s going to take a bit of actual product planning to make this a concrete goal. What would the product do?

]]> By: shaver http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/22/mozpad-musings/#comment-98643 shaver Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:37:54 +0000 http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/08/22/mozpad-musings/#comment-98643 If the mozpad crew wanted to start building and testing SDK spins for the various update versions, I think we could find some space for them on the community build hosts, and I know a lot of developers would be glad to see them! If the mozpad crew wanted to start building and testing SDK spins for the various update versions, I think we could find some space for them on the community build hosts, and I know a lot of developers would be glad to see them!

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