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	<title>Comments on: Mozpad IDE Project Meeting on Monday</title>
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		<title>By: mavikozmetik</title>
		<link>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/10/14/mozpad-ide-project-meeting-on-monday/#comment-170163</link>
		<author>mavikozmetik</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 14:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/10/14/mozpad-ide-project-meeting-on-monday/#comment-170163</guid>
		<description>kozmetik, sağlık, cinsellik, çatlak, selülit, güzellik, zayıf, büyütücü, geciktirici, sigara, bakım, cilt, ten, bayan, kadın, tedavi, ereksiyon, sertleştirici, göğüs, ilaç.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kozmetik, sağlık, cinsellik, çatlak, selülit, güzellik, zayıf, büyütücü, geciktirici, sigara, bakım, cilt, ten, bayan, kadın, tedavi, ereksiyon, sertleştirici, göğüs, ilaç.</p>
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		<title>By: Penis Büyütücü Krem</title>
		<link>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/10/14/mozpad-ide-project-meeting-on-monday/#comment-170039</link>
		<author>Penis Büyütücü Krem</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 09:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/10/14/mozpad-ide-project-meeting-on-monday/#comment-170039</guid>
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		<title>By: penisbüyütücü</title>
		<link>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/10/14/mozpad-ide-project-meeting-on-monday/#comment-152050</link>
		<author>penisbüyütücü</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/10/14/mozpad-ide-project-meeting-on-monday/#comment-152050</guid>
		<description>there is overlap on some features with the (currently unspecified) feature set that we would like to drive for an IDE focused on the Open Web</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is overlap on some features with the (currently unspecified) feature set that we would like to drive for an IDE focused on the Open Web</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Caraveo</title>
		<link>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/10/14/mozpad-ide-project-meeting-on-monday/#comment-119107</link>
		<author>Shane Caraveo</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/10/14/mozpad-ide-project-meeting-on-monday/#comment-119107</guid>
		<description>Early thoughts on a XUL IDE based on Open Komodo 

(I hope the formatting survives)

After reviewing the PDF, there are just some quick thoughts I can express prior to the meeting.

- there is overlap on some features with the (currently unspecified) feature set that we would like to drive for an IDE focused on the Open Web (codename SnapDragon)

- some features specified (but not highlighted as available in Komodo) are implemented already/to some extent in OpenKomodo, but may need additional work.

- features that are entirely absent in Komodo but are in other mentioned projects
-- xul checker (we do basic xml linting, with a proper DTD for xul, we could easily do a lint with DTD using xmllint)
-- code reformaters
-- live preview for xul (kind of do it in browser preview, but that is not good enough)
-- xulr launcher (should be easy to do)
-- gui editing

some notes or thoughts on feature requirements list

- xpcom
-- xpcom/idl creation is done via "new file templates"
-- list of hosted xpcom components could be available via cview or similar extension, there is one that plugs into Komodo already

- l10n
-- would a l10n wizard/tool be good for web dev also?
-- I used a python script to localize xul/xbl files in komodo, it could be used as a starting point

- ui related tools
-- DOMi has some extremely rudimentary capability already, that with some additional work and ui redesign could turn it into a full blown wysiwyg editor.  a wysiwyg editor combined with dom manipulation would be good
-- there are color pickers (via python using native OS widgets) available, just not integrated with css editing yet.

- debugging features
-- we want to integrate in some fashion with firefox, in a way that is usable by different firefox extensions to drive Komodo functionality.  These features are not thought out or defined yet.

- projects
-- the project templates can be extremely flexible and should be able to handle the needs as defined.  
-- we would like to redesign the project system once moved onto trunk, potentially using the new xml-rdf datasource as a way to improve project performance.

- snippets
-- snippets, and file templates, in komodo can drive dialogs to ask questions for data

- gui
-- there are some design issues currently that prevent much change to the UI.  we'd like to change this but it needs to be well thought out, it's a bit of a larger project.
-- toolbars and menu's can be created/added via the toolbox, or extensions

- misc
-- the way we brand needs to be updated to better match/work with the way general mozilla applications are branded
-- for scintilla to be really useful outside of komodo, some work on patch integration, reworking of some of the SciMoz code and event handling needs to happen, also a bigger project. 
-- komodo builds on 1.9 (at least on OSX) as of last week.  there are many issues and bugs that need to be fixed for using komodo on 1.9.  SciMoz needs modification for trunk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Early thoughts on a XUL IDE based on Open Komodo </p>
<p>(I hope the formatting survives)</p>
<p>After reviewing the PDF, there are just some quick thoughts I can express prior to the meeting.</p>
<p>- there is overlap on some features with the (currently unspecified) feature set that we would like to drive for an IDE focused on the Open Web (codename SnapDragon)</p>
<p>- some features specified (but not highlighted as available in Komodo) are implemented already/to some extent in OpenKomodo, but may need additional work.</p>
<p>- features that are entirely absent in Komodo but are in other mentioned projects<br />
&#8211; xul checker (we do basic xml linting, with a proper DTD for xul, we could easily do a lint with DTD using xmllint)<br />
&#8211; code reformaters<br />
&#8211; live preview for xul (kind of do it in browser preview, but that is not good enough)<br />
&#8211; xulr launcher (should be easy to do)<br />
&#8211; gui editing</p>
<p>some notes or thoughts on feature requirements list</p>
<p>- xpcom<br />
&#8211; xpcom/idl creation is done via &#8220;new file templates&#8221;<br />
&#8211; list of hosted xpcom components could be available via cview or similar extension, there is one that plugs into Komodo already</p>
<p>- l10n<br />
&#8211; would a l10n wizard/tool be good for web dev also?<br />
&#8211; I used a python script to localize xul/xbl files in komodo, it could be used as a starting point</p>
<p>- ui related tools<br />
&#8211; DOMi has some extremely rudimentary capability already, that with some additional work and ui redesign could turn it into a full blown wysiwyg editor.  a wysiwyg editor combined with dom manipulation would be good<br />
&#8211; there are color pickers (via python using native OS widgets) available, just not integrated with css editing yet.</p>
<p>- debugging features<br />
&#8211; we want to integrate in some fashion with firefox, in a way that is usable by different firefox extensions to drive Komodo functionality.  These features are not thought out or defined yet.</p>
<p>- projects<br />
&#8211; the project templates can be extremely flexible and should be able to handle the needs as defined.<br />
&#8211; we would like to redesign the project system once moved onto trunk, potentially using the new xml-rdf datasource as a way to improve project performance.</p>
<p>- snippets<br />
&#8211; snippets, and file templates, in komodo can drive dialogs to ask questions for data</p>
<p>- gui<br />
&#8211; there are some design issues currently that prevent much change to the UI.  we&#8217;d like to change this but it needs to be well thought out, it&#8217;s a bit of a larger project.<br />
&#8211; toolbars and menu&#8217;s can be created/added via the toolbox, or extensions</p>
<p>- misc<br />
&#8211; the way we brand needs to be updated to better match/work with the way general mozilla applications are branded<br />
&#8211; for scintilla to be really useful outside of komodo, some work on patch integration, reworking of some of the SciMoz code and event handling needs to happen, also a bigger project.<br />
&#8211; komodo builds on 1.9 (at least on OSX) as of last week.  there are many issues and bugs that need to be fixed for using komodo on 1.9.  SciMoz needs modification for trunk.</p>
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		<title>By: davide ficano</title>
		<link>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/10/14/mozpad-ide-project-meeting-on-monday/#comment-119032</link>
		<author>davide ficano</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 18:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2007/10/14/mozpad-ide-project-meeting-on-monday/#comment-119032</guid>
		<description>Actually I'm using KomodoEdit and it is very comfortable.
I'm waiting OpenKomodo became real as soon as possibile.
I would Komodo localized, I know this isn't a priority task but it can be done faster involving volunteers on open projects.
I've written &lt;a href="http://dafizilla.sourceforge.net/morekomodo/" rel="nofollow"&gt;MoreKomodo&lt;/a&gt; to make my developer life easier.

In Mozilla IDE preliminary requirements I read:
"A way to populate a .dtd file from a XML file with not referenced entities"
What do you really mean?
I'm not sure but this can be done using &lt;a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/it/firefox/addon/4405" rel="nofollow"&gt;Externalize&lt;/a&gt; already used by &lt;a href="http://www.babelzilla.org/forum/index.php?act=portal" rel="nofollow"&gt;Babelzilla&lt;/a&gt; team</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I&#8217;m using KomodoEdit and it is very comfortable.<br />
I&#8217;m waiting OpenKomodo became real as soon as possibile.<br />
I would Komodo localized, I know this isn&#8217;t a priority task but it can be done faster involving volunteers on open projects.<br />
I&#8217;ve written <a href="http://dafizilla.sourceforge.net/morekomodo/" rel="nofollow">MoreKomodo</a> to make my developer life easier.</p>
<p>In Mozilla IDE preliminary requirements I read:<br />
&#8220;A way to populate a .dtd file from a XML file with not referenced entities&#8221;<br />
What do you really mean?<br />
I&#8217;m not sure but this can be done using <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/it/firefox/addon/4405" rel="nofollow">Externalize</a> already used by <a href="http://www.babelzilla.org/forum/index.php?act=portal" rel="nofollow">Babelzilla</a> team</p>
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